lost the economic debate to barack obama because he didn't connect with those voters which has a lot to do with his personal wealth and his style as a politician. but he also didn't convince them on substance. how do you make conservative economics more appealing to people in the middle. bill: i think the folks on the right have short memories. that shocked democrats and got their ground operation up and running sooner than they would have otherwise. >> barack obama started building his cam paint day after he got elected. the republican party has an infrastructure problem. i assume they probably figured that out and will work on that over the next four years because that in the end of the day i think is why yes they had a problem with their message, yes, they picked a candidate who was sort of particularly ill suited for the times, but at the same time i think a lot of this has to do with the fact that obama knew where his voters were, who they were, and bombarded them and turned them out. bill: stayed in contact with them for four years and went through them to find other potential